Ep. 1 - Learnin' and Growin'

FIRST EPISODE BABYYY. AP and Jay talk about over-policing during a peaceful climate change protest and the pros and cons of deep-fakes and how they could be dangerous. AP goes in depth on the latest DreamVille project. And finally Jay expresses his love of the movie CODA. We're excited to learn and grow with y'all with our new content. We will be officially dropping on every other Wednesday.

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Transcript

AP  0:10  
What's poppin' y'all. Welcome to the AP and Jay Show. A podcast for the culture. I'm your boy AP.

Jay  0:17  
And I'm Jay, what's poppin' y'all.

AP  0:19  
and uh what you trynna get into today Jay.

All right, so it is episode one, the first episode of the AP and Jay Show. So we had to make a special, we had to make a special. We've got three beautiful segments for y'all today. Real Talk with the Homies, the film grain, Jays film grain. And the oh the sound, into the sound booth by  AP

into the sound booth y'all. Into the Sound Booth.

Jay  0:45  
Into the Sound Booth with AP. We unfortunately couldn't, uh,  the person that we were going to get in contact with for our first segment of Welcome to the Table. There were some scheduling conflicts. We want to get an episode out to y'all as fast as possible. So we'll be getting him or them. We're not, him them. We won't tell you like who the person is. No spoilers.

Y'all find out soon enough.

Y'all find out soon enough. For the next next episode, episode two, we'll have them for sure.

AP  1:14  
yessir

Jay  1:17  
Anyway, I think that we should get into Real Talk first, though.

AP  1:20  
some real talk,

some real talk for the first action.

Jay  1:24  
real talk for the first action. Start the people off with the stuff that they know and love, you know, two of the smartest men on the planet, who are talking about things that we know nothing about.

AP  1:34  
Real deal. This is the homage to the OGs that were back with us for the first season of Real Talk with the Homies

Jay  1:41  
Real ones know. Also, okay, so before we get into that, um, so we can track, like our episode downloads, like the episodes that people seem to like the most. And the one that people like the most is called George Bush for Prez 

AP  1:55  
Episode six

Jay  1:57  
And that was about the election and Qanon stuff that was way back in like, what was it 2020. Was it or was it early 2021. I can't remember. But that was a long time ago.

AP  2:05  
It was early 2020. It was like October 2020. And I that was like the last episode we released. 

Jay  2:09  
Yeah, yeah, it's that that one has the most downloads by far. And I'm kind of scared because I hope that it's not. They don't think that is to us, plugging like Republican people or wanting George Bush back. It was a joke. The title was a joke. So I just wanna put that, that I just wanted to say that.

AP  2:13  
The context clues. The context clues is what y'all need. That y'all just saw George Bush and ran with it.

Jay  2:34  
I've been wanting to say that publicly for so long. And now we finally can say it. But anyway, anyway, let's let's get into AP. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about some

AP  2:44  
what are we talking about for that real talk?

Jay  2:47  
Alright, so today we're talking about some insane climate activist stuff that went down in New York. And we're also going to be talking about deep fakes. And the deep fake thing is interesting, I promise. But the climate change thing that's more pressing. So we'll get into that first.

AP  3:02  
Yes. So this is something that I saw on, I can't remember if it was Twitter or TikTok, like, either at the beginning of this week, or like a week ago, again, I should have done more research on the topic. I'm gonna keep that, you know, at, like, right here, I'm just gonna say it out loud. But from what I saw, I saw it was about seven to eight different climate scientists, I believe, that were also activists. They chained themselves outside of a building in New York, I think it was JP Morgan, again, don't quote me on this. But it was seven to eight scientists. So that's eight. Like, you can count that on two hands. There's eight scientists. And I swear, like an absurd number of police officers, the New York PD showed up to like, take these people away, like the type of like numbers, that is like, why do you need that many people to show up for eight people that are activists. That aren't you know, armed or anything, they're just there, in lab coats, or whatever they're wearing, just chained to these doors. And they're there because they're trying to push so that more people will know that if we don't start making an active change, in uh, I don't know if his legislation specifically, but if we're not trying to take steps to combat climate change, we have like two years before everything starts going to hell, basically.

Jay  4:28  
Well I mean, I think, I don't know, I just I just, I just looked it up. So we could actually have

AP  4:33  
Okay good. 

Jay  4:34  
the real info. Yeah it was in, it was in LA. It was in LA.

AP  4:39  
Oh, LA. I knew it was a big city. My fault.

Jay  4:39  
It was in LA sorry, y'all, but yeah, it was in LA. It was it was yea big group of scientists and their whole they're all in riot gear, which is again, yeah, it shows

AP  4:51  
Yea, the police they were in riot gear for eight scientists.

Jay  4:54  
The things, the things that you know that goes on with the police. We've been talking about this for as long as we've been on this podcasts,

AP  5:00  
and we'll probably continue talking about it too.

Jay  5:03  
It's like bringing, it's like bringing a paintball to a game a tag, you know, it's like a level it's a level of a level of violence. That's just totally uncalled for, but they just like to, you know, they like to flex all there military gear, which they don't need. But that's the that's the thing for a different story. These police budgets are insane man it also shows that LA is like not, LA is a pretty crime ridden city. There's a lot of stuff that goes down there. And you're telling me that there were there weren't other things that were going on that would actually required police attention

AP  5:34  
that all, like all of those police officers, like come on.

Jay  5:37  
LA's a big city, and they were just like, uh nope, nope, nope. Let's send what was like 30, 40 police officers in riot gear to them is just

AP  5:45  
yeah, 

Jay  5:45  
it's just too much. I really,

AP  5:47  
And again, like I said they were unarmed. Like the only thing that they did was that they chained themselves to a door. 

Jay  5:53  
Yeah, 

AP  5:53  
For an act of activism. Yeah

Jay  5:55  
Riot gear, riot gear was not needed at all. They weren't even being violated they were just sittin there. It's called um. Ah man I can't remeber, it's a type of peaceful protest. I can't remember what it's called, but uncalled for no one's been violent. No one was throwing anything. Just police, you know what, police budgets are insane man, I can never get over this. I've been I'm a big we'll actually get into this in a real episode. We'll like do some research and actually have stuff to talk about. But I am a firm believer that if you just take uh, even 20% of major city police budgets, and put it directly into education for supplies, teacher salaries,

AP  5:57  
oh, yeah.

Jay  6:34  
Classroom, classroom amenities, anything, you will see an incredible decrease in crime rates in those major cities, increases in high school graduations, and college applications slash graduations it's all correlate and they just waste all their money trying to, it's like putting, it's like shoveling shit onto shit to make it smell less bad. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't make any sense why they just keep throwing money at a problem in the wrong way. They need to they need to be diverting resources away from the police. Yeah, and into education. But I did actually notice.

AP  7:11  
It's more than just, you know, some people say like, we have to defund the police. But it's more than that we have to abolish the police. Because because just like, what you're saying, like, if you're trying to de fund and um, what's the word? So like, if we defund the police, there's, that's one way that we can push it towards other areas, specifically education, because as you said, that, there's correlations to this, like, there's levels to this that we know like, if more money is there, we're going to see a greater outcome, but at the same time, like, who's going to actually push for that legislation within like the government. So we always know that people always say you have to go out and vote you have to go out and vote. But like, when are we actually going to see some change? Specifically from voting? You know? So it's like, yes, is more of like a push that we need to, like, abolish the police system, like, of itself, and like, think of something new. But that's like always the hardest part, though, like thinking of something new.

Jay  8:08  
It's because it's too much work. And that's why no one does. 

AP  8:10  
Yeah. Yeah, 

Jay  8:11  
It's too much work. And the people believe that the police are, for some reason holding up our country. And if we take them down, and that's just going topple, topple the world, even though I will say that America is a war mongering country. And if you actually look at um

economic graphs,

during times of war, our economy like skyrockets, like we have the most profitable years during times of war. We live it's just, it's just everything. It's everything. And it's too much to get into in a very short Real Talk segment. We will do it in a future episode, but it is just a mess. And we'll fix it. We will fix it for you.

AP  8:51  
I will say, I will say one more thing. I'll say one more thing that a lot of people like in this country don't know about like the history of the police force. I'm pretty sure he said it before but it's always something want to say again, like the police force is rooted in slavery, like the like slave patrols of like, people hired to catch runaway slaves, enslaved people I should say that's proper terminology, like people were hired to catch enslaved people that were running away were slave patrols and slave patrols turned into what we now know as the monitor police force. So it's like there's levels to this 

Jay  9:24  
In America at least, in the US atleast

AP  9:25  
 A lot of people don't know about

but anyways, 

Jay  9:30  
that's episode for another day. 

AP  9:32  
Yeah, yeah, that's

a topic with endless hours of discussion

Jay  9:36  
In a neck breaking change deep fakes.

AP  9:40  
 Yes, yes,

Jay  9:41  
Actually, it's actually, no, it's not, I'm I'm actually going to tie back it's not that far off. So on, I've been aware of this for a couple years now, but one popped up and it's kind of sparked, re-sparked, my um thinking about this as a concept. Deep fakes for those of you don't know, it's basically facial tracking and you can put a picture of someone else's face on your face and make you look like somebody else is basically how it works. I'm grossly simplifying it. But that's basically how it works. I saw one, there's this guy who does really, really good Tom Cruise deepfakes.

AP  9:46  
On TikTok

Jay  10:14  
 Yeah, he's jumping over, um. Keegan Michael Key, he's jumping over his shoulders.

AP  10:20  
Shoutout Penn State ah

Jay  10:21  
 Hey, hey, come on. Come on podcast. Come on the podcast we love you.

AP  10:25  
You was, Kirk. You was Coach Franklin. We saw Coach Franklin. Hey, there's, holla at your boy, holla at your boy

Jay  10:32  
bring him on, bring

him on, come through. But yeah, so I saw that. And I could tell it was a deep fake because there's just something that's off about the face, or like how the eyes move and stuff you can tell. Because you know, humans have adapted to identify faces. Like, that's just what we do. Our eyes, our brains, our neural circuitry, we have just learned to identify faces. Over you know, thousands of years, we've learned to do that. So when something isn't a fit, that's what the uncanny valley is. It's like it looks so realistic, but we can still tell that it's off.

AP  10:32  
 Yeah,

Jay  10:36  
 but my point is, it's really cool. Like, it's really cool. But it sparks an interesting debate about the rights that you have to your likeness. There's actually a debate going on in Hollywood about this actors, because you can resurrect people from the dead using deep fakes. They did it in Star Wars, they're doing it a lot in Star Wars, which I have my own problems with. That's a whole nother

AP  11:20  
Oh, so that's, so that's how they do like the CGI stuff,

Jay  11:24  
it's this. It's basically just an advanced deep fake. It's

AP  11:28  
 okay, 

Jay  11:28  
it's basically what it is. Um, but aside from that, um, a darker turn for this and I really hope I don't give anyone any ideas by saying this. But a darker turn for this is, you can use this technology to frame people. You can put someone who wasn't there at the scene of a crime using this type of technology. And right like this is still in its infancy, it's only been around for like five, five or so years. But to use Star Wars again, Star Wars had some of the most, the original one, in 1977, had the most advanced, visual effects in history at that point, aside from maybe 2001 Space Odyssey. And they use a lot of green screen and back then you literally had to cut out pieces of the frame, like in the film, and then put it up against a different background. Now you can do that on your phone, super easily. And it looks pretty good. So just imagine, in even another five years how advanced this technology will be. And it's terrifying to think of like how people could use this. So I really hope that someone like gets on this and puts a lock on it where or learns away that you can disprove, you can like, a scientific way to prove the differences between a deep fake and a normal, normal thing. Because it's really scary you could you can in theory, you can frame people and you can put anyone at the scene of a crime and it is genuinely terrifying to think about. And that's what I was going to tie into the police force because they plant evidence all the time. It's well known that they plant evidence. So let's say they get some intern and they bully him into like, they bully him into you know, deep faking some dude who they, you know, they believe is the actual, you know, person at the scene of the crime even though he has a, you know, an airtight alibi or whatever. But yeah, that's just the thing that that really scares me about deep fakes. It's cool. Don't get me wrong, it's really cool. And it can be really funny sometimes, but like, we just got to use it. Use for good. Use your product good, you know? Don't Don't do that

AP  13:25  
that's weird. 

Jay  13:25  
Don't do that bad things

AP  13:27  
because I didn't even, I don't even think about that. Think about it like that. In terms of like CGI and resurrecting celebrities, because I remember, uh, one of my little brothers, he's, he's four years old, but he's one of the biggest Michael Jackson fans I think I've ever known.

Jay  13:43  
it's adorable. It's cutest thing

AP  13:44  
 it really is, it's crazy. Like y'all should see the videos of this little boy dancing it's, it's, it's Gold it's gold but um, but like I said he watches a lot of Michael Jackson videos and every once in a while we see this one performance of, uh, you know like when they do the hologram like the holographic performances like

Jay  13:55  
 yeah,

AP  13:55  
 of artists like I know like a Tupac one. Like I remember over the Superbowl people were speculating that there might be like a Tupac hologram performance, like with Mary J. Blige and Dr. Dre and all that, but

Jay  14:15  
i'm glad they didn't do that

AP  14:16  
 thankfully, yea like thankfully that didn't happen. Um, but that like,

Jay  14:20  
but also he's alive, and he went to Cuba to run away from Jada Pinkett Smith 

AP  14:25  
He's with his mama in Cuba just think about runnin from Jada, ahhh you ain't right? Ahh you ain't right. Hey, all I'm saying is Tupac would have slapped the mess out Chris Rock and everybody would have been silent. That's all imma say.

Jay  14:38  
we said we said we weren't gonna talk about it. We said we weren't. We're not gonna talk about it

AP  14:40  
It slipped. It slipped. I'm sorry. It slipped like that slap. Oh oh. Anyways, but no, like, I was trynna. I was trynna like, uh, talk about both of them together. Like, I know, uh, the holographic things isn't really as, like, um, like when it comes to like, respecting, like, the people that have passed in performances in the same way as like deep fakes. So I don't know if it will kind of coincide with each other, like, the morals and like ethical, like values, I guess of like the difference between the two of those when it comes specifically to like, people we deem as celebrities, or like famous people, but I don't know, like, it'd be weird think about it's like, um, if you had, if this is something more personal, so it's not celebrity, but if you've had like, like, if you're if your parents passed away when you're young, like a young kid, but there's like an audio recording of them, like they knew they're gonna pass away like that cancer or something, and they knew they're gonna pass away, so they had an audio recording specifically to you. And you were given the opportunity to have like, a deep fake video of them, like saying that to you. Like, would there still be like a moral dilemma? I don't know. This is something coming right off my head

Jay  14:43  
that depends on the person. But then you're also getting into kind of like, post, post hospice, I don't know to pronounce the word. But you know, when, um, like juice world, they made like three albums with like all of his unreleased music

AP  16:14  
post, post humonal is that the word post post humonal,

Jay  16:18  
I don't know how to pronounce the word

AP  16:21  
post hamonies, I don't know

Jay  16:22  
 Post hostumous, post hostimous, hippopotamus

AP  16:25  
it's one of them, it's one, it it's one of them syllables

Jay  16:28  
but you know what I mean? That, I've heard it pronounced like three different ways, I don't know, how to pronounce it. But they do that a lot. And they do that with like, Pop Smoke, um Drake did it with Michael Jackson. It doesn't Yeah, it's a lot with music, because there's just so much, so it's like, how much of this is okay, I still have a problem with I think that you need to stop. If like artists dies in the middle of them producing an album, I think finish it and then leave it alone, you know, a unless they explicitly say keep using my music, I think you should just leave it alone. But that's just, that's just me.

AP  16:28  
 I don't know how real this is. But I saw it, it might just be a myth. But Otis Redding, for the recording of sitting on, sitting on dock of the bay, like the whistle part at the end, someone said like he, he was, he died, and they were never able to fully finish recording it. So

Jay  17:16  
 Oh,

AP  17:16  
 like, I guess I don't know how true that is. I've I was told this years ago, and I always think about that every single time because I love that song. But someone said that he like he died. And they're never able to fully finish the song. So at the very end, it says him whistling the weird, but but I was trying to bring up like, we like you bring up how deep fakes can be used, like, in like, a really scary way with police and like framing somebody, but then there's like, the other side of it. Whereas like deep fakes can be used to like, have a certain type of, like, internal connection with someone that may have passed away that you know, so it's like a, it's really hard. It's really hard to think about it because there might be positive and negatives to to, to that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. 

Jay  18:01  
We will we will save this we actually, we do want to do like a full ish episode about this. But these are just again for Real Talk with the Homies. But yeah, we will take a future episode about this

AP  18:13  
Bookmark it,

Jay  18:14  
um, the ethics of it. And again, we're not lawyers and or musicians or whatever but yeah, we're just people who enjoy these things 

AP  18:23  
Just two boys that were in academia so we know how to do our research, you know, 

Jay  18:26  
We know how to do our research we'll write a whole, whole thesis about it. But anyway, speaking of music lets hop into the sound booth. 

AP  18:32  
All right. Okay, we got the first episode or the first, I don't know how to say that. I want to say like, like part one

Jay  18:40  
 just episode one, I think episode one works

AP  18:46  
 this is yeah, episode one yeah, that makes sense. Okay, this is episode one of Into the Sound Booth. And today we're going to be getting in to the album that dropped about, not album, mixtape, that dropped about two, maybe two and a half weeks ago. DJ Drama and Dreamville D-Day: A Gangsta Grillz Mixtape. So Jaydin, what are your like biggest takeaways from this

Jay  19:14  
Okay so funny story, AP texts me and he's like, I want to cover this for the sound booth and I was like alright bet. But he tells me, he's like Jay I'm warning you. It's a lot of outros in this, in this, in this mixtape and something about me. I cannot stand outros in music, like when they're just like when there's a talking for like 30 seconds at the end of a song I cannot stand that it like I have this one like you know, um, Ali Bomaye by the, by The Game and like whoever and whatever, there's like the end of that song there just talking about his Jesus piece for like 40 seconds and it always messes up my workout when I'm in the gym and so that's part of like that's that's like, one of the many reasons why I just, I feel like they should just be, they should if they're gonna do outros. Make make make, like an outro addition, make an outro originally and make a non outro edition of your track. And honestly, that might work better for you. It's more streams. So artists, maybe do that. I'll consider it a personal favorite if you do that for me,

AP  20:16  
 Aye he might, this man Jay might be on to something I don't know

Jay  20:21  
But my main takeaways. Honestly, this album was kind of all over the place for me. It was like it was, I guess Dreamville kinda does this anyway, because Dreamville is made of a bunch of different artists who come from a bunch of different backgrounds, and it wasn't all over the place in a bad way. But like, you have like drill beats then you have like a weird like, XXXTENTACION like $uicideboy$ thing going on, like screamo type music, and then you have Ari Lennox dropping like a low key very sexual song and just like in the middle of it, and I was just like all 

AP  20:57  
hey all love to Ari. All love to Ari though

Jay  20:59  
but, and then they just had like, uh, they had like, some underground like Lute stuff. I love Lute, by the way, Lutes a great artists, but it wasn't bad. Like, I'm not saying this is bad, but it was just like, I guess that's what a mixtape is, though.

AP  21:14  
 Yeah,

Jay  21:14  
 you know?

AP  21:17  
Yeah, nah, I was, I was thinking kind of the same thing. And like, when I was looking at, like, what other people were kind of seeing or seeing and thinking about it, everybody was kind of thinking the same type of, type of way. Were like, because I know for me, whenever I'm listening to something, and if it's like, an album, not just like singles, like I try to see, like, what the flow of it is from song to song and see how, like how much someone, like not like how much someone's thought process is like on the subject, but like, how much you're thinking of like how each song coincides with each other for like, the whole. And I was like, I was kind of thinking the same thing, where like, the first song on it Stick was hard. Like, like for like, like cause. And whenever you like, you droppin, like a whole collection of songs, like the first song always has to hit hard and like that, that shit hit hard. So I was like, Okay, I see how this is but then like as it kind of goes along. Because again, that's kind of like with the culture Dreamville like you said, because like the artists that are on Dreamville all kind of have different aspects or like they show different aspects of like artistry. So like you got guys like JD for like fast rappers and they go fast they're gonna rap over like a drill beat thing got guys like Cozz or Omen that are goin rap kind of over like a more mellow not as like, like straight up beat and then got Ari, Ari Lennox and her  sexy ass  voice I love Ari,

Jay  22:43  
 Ari, come on, come on the pod come on the pod

AP  22:46  
So Yeah I, so I know. So yeah, yeah. Hey, if Ari Lennox gets on The AP and Jay Show. That'd be a dream come true. I ain't goin lie.

Jay  22:54  
So AP is the big music guy. In our dynamic duo, he loves music.

AP  23:00  
 I love you music

Jay  23:00  
He really though, he, when he talks about music, it's like you can, there's like a passion and like a lot of heart that goes into it. He down, he downplays himself a lot. He just He has so much talent that he's just, y'all are not ready for going already for him is

AP  23:17  
see is like a, it's like a raw passion. Because like, like, I think I've always thought of myself as having like a ear for music. And like being able to like, if I'm listening to something I can either somewhat pick the instruments apart or I can hear the melodies within it before like even actually listening to the song. But like the actual, like technical stuff, and um, like the actual process of like fully making music beyond just like writing lyrics and like rapping whatever, that's the case. I don't know. Y'all, check that out later. Like that's some stuff that I'm still you know find myself being in the learning process of so, like trust me like Into the Sound Booth, this is this is some raw some raw ish right here. So it's very it's very much like y'all gonna learn with me along the way and we're going to be able to dissect music better the further along we get 

Jay  24:10  
that's a beautiful thing man.

AP  24:11  
Yeah, 

Jay  24:12  
so

AP  24:12  
 okay, yeah so but hey,  that's what we are, we just out here just learning and growing

Jay  24:17  
culture growin with the culture, the people are growing with the people

AP  24:20  
That's the uh, the premise of episode one we're learning and growing and we're learning and growing together as a community 

Jay  24:27  
so uh, musically, What did you think of this in terms of like the beats and like the flow what were some of your favorite favorite songs? Our some songs you think they could have left out? Just give me give me your Give me your two cents. 

AP  24:43  
So beats wise, like I said, um, Stick the first song that was on the the mixtape hit hard as hell. And then the second one Ghetto Gods, Ghetto Gods Freestyle,

 I like that one too

By uh EARTHGANG and uh 2 Chainz, like the beat on that song like the first time I heard it, I was like whoa this this is something this is something right here and then like I listened to it in the car and like you can hear like, like if you like listening to music and you like listen to music in the car you could hear like I don't really know what because again I'm still learning and growing. But like you hear like the like the treble or the drums whatever like this like go around

Jay  25:21  
so it was a good mix

AP  25:22  
 Yeah, yeah so I was like damn like yeah, like for me like for me I was like that was my favorite beat. Like this Like specifically beat like not even like beat with lyrics but just like listening to the beat. That was my favorite one. But I think like when it comes to favorite song, Ballin in Newport by Omen, that was my favorite song. Mainly cause again, like you talked about how they had different like different beats like it was like it was kind of jumping all over again this time like, like how Dreamville is because of their their art like the artists and the artistry within the artists so it had a different beat and different tempo to it. But I thought, Omen, I looked him up that man is 40 I did not know he was that old. That man is 40 from from Chiraq, from Chicago, the og, but I thought like he had really, like his storytelling and his flow like within the song itself like really hit home to me and like the lyrics and again I say it's my favorite because like when when I looked like I took a deeper dive into the lyrics like his his lyrics specifically to me like it hit home like there is stuff in it when he's talking about going to college and like his other homies like went other like other schools other places, but he didn't know like where he could lean to talk about like want to be a Hooper like he didn't want to be in class talked about like other stuff that like resonated with like me and like who I am as a person so it kind of made me like drawn to that song more but um yeah, and then Starting Five, the beat the beat switch in Starting Five is also my thang. And DJ Drama was quick with it when he was talking about the slap. Again, I didn't want to bring it up again, but it was in the music so I had to bring it up again 

Jay  27:08  
They must have done that one song at the last minute because there's no way that they just there's no way they did that whole project in like 2 days

AP  27:14  
Okay, Okay, listen. Before it before Yeah, before I ask you about like what your favorite songs and beats were. I looked it up they literally made this whole mixtape in like 10 days and it was approved the day before it was released. So like literally like they made this like a week not even like a week but like three four days after the Oscars and like that whole incident went down so there they were quick with it. They were like like how fast people were on Twitter and 

Jay  27:41  
it just goes to show like the talent these people have they can drop some like this have it pretty well received and they only made it like 10 days. Beats mixing

AP  27:49  
 Yeah,

Jay  27:50  
 recording all

AP  27:51  
 Yeah.

Jay  27:51  
 10 days is nuts, because I remember

AP  27:54  
 Yeah, that's wild

Jay  27:56  
this is kind of a controversial opinion, but Culture II, Culture II by the Migos. They said that they they said that they recorded everything in like a day. And the sentiment was like yeah, we can kind of tell, Culture II it has some bops on it. They had some good music on there. But you could tell like their heart wasn't in it. Now Culture III, Culture III. They brought it back. Now Culture II eh. But that's, I'm not, I'm not the sound booth guy. That's him. He told me to say that. I was. AP told me to say that so don't don't

AP  28:27  
Hey don't look at me. Okay, but Jay, what was your favorite songs, favorite beats? 

Jay  28:33  
So my favorites. I have Like Wine with Lute, Ghetto God's Freestyle, obviously, if I see, if I see EARTHGANG or 2 Chainz I'm probably gonna like this song. I really like EARTHGANG I really like 2 Chainz. 

AP  28:46  
Yeah, that's facts

Jay  28:47  
Lifestyle, Barry from Simpson, Coming down with Ari Lennox, Blackberry SAP with Ari Lennox, and Jozi Flows. Those are my personal favorite. The two Ari Lennox ones in my personal opinion, I think those were the best songs on the whole one but I'm I'm a little biased because she has a beautiful voice and we love Ari Lennox, but but those songs were just beautiful and just her voice is just muh and everything was just so good on those. I really like Lute. I'm kind of a person who likes more like underground sounding music if that makes sense. And that that's what that kind of sound was for me with Like Wine that's why I liked it a lot. Ghetto Gods Freestyle just because like the bars and just the freestyle was insane and EARTHGANG and 2 Chainz are absolute Goated, um. Again, Bas A$AP Ferg love those two. JID, 2 Chainz, Young Nudy on Barry from Simpson again all great, all great. Again, I'm not a music person so I can't really do any analysis. But I'm just saying that those are my those are my favorites. But yeah, it was. I was really surprised to see this come out when it came out. And I was just kind of not taken aback but I was just very shocked to see that they, I didn't even no Dreamville was like trying to do something I see it was like Gangsta Grillz and stuff. I was really surprised to see that too. Because I haven't

AP  30:01  
See but here, this is where I was going to, uh,  the part of this album I was going to analyze, like the most into but like this is like when I told you about early like the theory that I had. So the album, it dropped, like two days before the Dreamville Festival started so I was like, maybe they're trying to add a little something because um, either like for that. But then, I thought that first but then I looked a little bit deeper. And I was like hm, okay, on Revenge of the Dreamers III, the album that dropped back in what 2019 I'm pretty sure. I was looking through the tracklist and the biggest artists like that like, either like recently signed on, or like are trying to make a name for themselves that were on it the most on Revenge of the Dreamers III was JID and EARTHGANG. But they're like they were only on a couple of the songs on this album. But the biggest stars, or not biggest stars, but the biggest artists on Dreamville on this album were Omen and Cozz so I was like huh so I thought like maybe they're trying to do something where because JID and EARTHGANG after that Revenge of the Dreamers III album dropped they like blew up like I don't want to say like they're,  they weren't already big but they like 

Jay  31:24  
It took them to the next level 

AP  31:25  
started to really do they thing and started, yeah they took them to the next level Yeah, so I was like maybe this is a type of project that they're dropping right before the festival so more people would hear music by Cozz and Omen, which are to guys, like I listened to Cozz more than I do Omen, I didn't really know a lot about Omen, but again, I would say he he was one of the noteworthy artists on this album. I was like maybe they're dropping this specifically, well I don't know it's like specifically specifically, but maybe they had that thought that let's have these two guys to three guys because Lute also I will mention him like with those as being the type of guys that are on Dreamville, but they don't have as much notoriety notoriety,

Jay  32:08  
like they are kind of more lowkey and they're yet they're like

AP  32:10  
 they're not as much of a yea. Yeah, they're the more low key artists that are on Dreamville, let's give them a bigger platform because obviously everybody, if a Dreamville album drops out of the blue everybody's gonna listen to it regardless if like, they're gonna like it or not, but they they're gonna see huh, instead of J. Cole being on every single song, instead of JID EARTHGANG being on every single song. We got Cozz, Omen and Lute like who the, who are those guys, but then you listen to it and like man, the guys they got some bars like oh man, this guy can flow. Oh man, this guy is really talented. And then fast forward three days later, you go to the Dreamville Festival and you see all these guys and like man now I'm listening back to like what their old stuff was and now I'm a fan. So I think that like was the like some of the thought process in dropping this album specifically was getting the guys that are on Dreamvilles label that are like not as known yet some more to push them to that next level yeah, that's like the main takeaway that I got from this album

You see, you see how, I didn't even think that, I didn't even think of that

 interesting right

Jay  32:58  
 see this is why we have the sound booth 

AP  33:17  
I don't know if this is real that's what I said it's a theory. This is a theory but 

Jay  33:20  
low key there kind of stealing our bit. They're doing a Welcome to the Table, they stealing it. J. Cole. 

AP  33:20  
Aye Yeah, you you bring that you found that that man Lute, we got to get him on the show. 

Jay  33:31  
If we can get Lute on the show. 

AP  33:33  
Hey Lute.

Jay  33:33  
Hit us up, hit us up

AP  33:35  
Aye Lute if you see this. 

Alex and Jaydin  3:36  
Hit us up

Jay  33:36  
At the APandJayShow on all social media platforms. 

AP  33:45  
theapandjayshow@gmail.com that as well, everything will be in the description. yes.

Jay  33:50  
And then just before you before you wrap up, I just wanted to say something that was like kind of cool to me. Kenny Mason on Stick, I discovered Kenny Mason, like five years ago, there was a song like NIke

AP  34:01  
 Really? I don't even know who that is

Jay  34:03  
That I really liked. Um, was it called Nike? Yea probably. And I had it on a playlists and was listening to it all the time. And then you know, I kind of got into other music and stuff, but it was kind of cool seeing him because I thought he was really talented. And I listened to some of his albums, has one called like angels. Really good. You should listen to that. um. really talented. I think he's about our age. 

AP  34:03  
Hm, Okay.

Jay  34:23  
 Yeah, it was just cool seeing him on Dreamville. So, maybe he'll be next up finally. Because I was listening to him and I was like, He's next up

AP  34:29  
yea that's tough

Jay  34:30  
. And he's never got his break until now

AP  34:32  
 and I know this man's voice.

Jay  34:33  
But yeah what are your

AP  34:35  
five years later, Hey, that's whatit is

Jay  34:37  
What are your closing thoughts.

AP  34:39  
My closing thoughts are again, this is a DJ Drama Dreamville Gangsta Grillz Mixtape. DJ drama, he's done. Like, I looked it up. It was like over, well over 100 Different Gangsta Grillz Mixtapes, like, dating back like 23, 24 years ago. I don't think this is one of the best ones

Jay  34:59  
really?

AP  34:59  
He's done. No because he's done, I forgot if it was like the Dedication 1, Dedication 2 with Lil Wayne, he's done some stuff with Jeezy Gucci Mane. So it was like there's a lot of different artists especially back in like the early 2000s that he worked with on Gangsta Grillz Mixtapes specifically so I'm talking about like with that label, like as a Gangsta Grillz Mixtape, I don't think it's one of the best ones. I think that as like a Dreamville like, album, whatever. I think it's pretty. I think it's solid again, I don't think I don't think it's the best thing that they've done. But I thought it was solid, you know? Like, it wasn't, it wasn't like, there wasn't anything on it that made me like, go like absolutely crazy over or like, Oh, this is something like new, or like something they've never done before. But like as Dreamville and their artists like this is just showing their artistry. Like this is just showing like who they have. 

Jay  5:53  
Right, right, like showcasing,

AP  5:54  
 I think its, Yeah, so like so if we're if we're waiting for rating albums on Into the Sound Booth, I would say this is like a good 3.84 out of 5

Jay  36:05  
 3.84 out of 5. We got to come up with a rating system for you. 

AP  36:09  
I'm also

Jay  36:09  
 like specific to you. How many afros out of five would you give it? 

AP  36:14  
I would say this is, I would say this is, half a half a braid, out of a whole head that's twisted it's like half a braid. I don't know that's terrible. Well, I'll think of something else. 

Jay  36:27  
Well, that was a great

AP  36:28  
 but it was good. It was good,

Jay  36:31  
 mhm Well that was an excellent Into the Sound Booth. 

AP  36:33  
All right. All right now jumping from the sound booth we're hopping into your favorite auditorium theater whatever you want to say for Jay's Film Grain. yuh. 

Jay  36:44  
Jay's Film Grain baby. Yessir. All right. So today, for the first one, I want to start off with a movie that's pretty well guarded. May or may not have heard of it. It's called CODA. Definitely heard of it, it was the Academy Award winning for Best Picture of the Year. It also won a couple of words for the actors. I think it was Best Supporting Actor, but we'll get into that. So before we get into my analysis and our thoughts on the movie, why don't we jump into a brief synopsis? This movie takes place in a fishing town called Gloucester, Massachusetts, not sure if I'm pronouncing that right, but whatever. It follows our protagonist Ruby, who is a 17, 18 year old high school senior, who's kind of discovering herself in the world, and she happens to be a CODA, which is an acronym for child of deaf adults. Now, she has her parents are both deaf and so is her older brother Leo, her brother, or her father's name is Frank, her mother's name is

AP  37:38  
 Jackie. 

Jay  37:38  
Jackie. Yes, her mother's name is Jackie, I forgot I couldn't remember if it was Jessica or Jackie. Now, the main conflict, if you want to call it of this movie is, she has basically been living as an interpreter for as long as she has been alive because she was the only, is the only one in her family who is hearing. Um, so her family has been, I don't wanna say using her, but she has been like kind of a doorway into the hearing world. And it's been very helpful for her family to you know have her around to translate for like, you know, her dad's job or school stuff or, you know, whatever is needed communication with family. If you are a Coda, and you're listening to this, you probably understand that, um, but yes, so she has a passion for music. She's an excellent singer. She's a very beautiful singer, and she wants to go, she decides that she wants to go to college. And she doesn't want to help out with her dad's fishing business anymore. She wants to move on and go to this school called Berklee, she meets this really great music teacher, who teaches her, you know how, like the proper method of singing with using your breath and opening up your chest and different breathing exercises because she has no formal training. And he kind of mentors her on her way towards Berklee. But at the same time, her family is leaving this third party to sell their fish and they're going to be selling the fish by themselves with the other fishermen in the in the town. So that's basically like how the synopsis goes and of course there's a love interest and there's a best friend, but they're not super important. We'll get into that in a little bit. But that's basically how the movie goes. It's a really beautiful character, character drama. Nice Bildungsroman. Uh, that means a coming of age story. And I like that 

AP  39:18  
technical words

Jay  39:18  
 so before we get into that, before we get into that what are some of your thoughts on the movie before I get into my stuff? Because I'm gonna be talking for a while

AP  39:24  
Okay, so I got three things. My favorite character was Frank her dad 

Jay  39:34  
definitely the dad yea

AP  39:34  
 mainly because because he resembles so much of my dad. So like, I was able to put myself like more like, into the shoes of the character. So like, like the his sense of humor stuff again, like straight on like my dad. Then there's, there's two scenes I like my favorite. The first thing was when she went to her teacher that was like, training her for her audition. And like he was saying, like, Oh, you're not like, you're not respecting my time, but she's like, stuck between helping her whole family and like this new business, but then she also want to, like, pursue something on our own. And then she finally like broke down there saying, like, she's never done anything with our family before. So I thought that was like a really powerful scene. And then I don't I don't want to spoil the movie, but like the end scene when she finally did the duet, like her parents perspective of it, like really, like, it was like, wow, so that's like, the main takeaways I have for the movie. But overall, I really did like it.

Jay  40:33  
Yeah, it was a, I think that the writing was definitely my favorite part. It felt very, I wrote down here, took some notes while I was watching it, I wrote that this movie feels like a nice home cooked meal. You know, it's very comforting. You feel very at home when you're watching this movie. Because there's, there's things that you can relate to as just as a person, you know, the um, of course, like most of the characters are deaf in this movie. But that doesn't mean anything. They're still a family, they still, you know, joke around about stuff, they still have things they talk about, like they're no different from us, they just can't hear. And that was kind of a sentiment that I was watching some deaf reviewers. That was something that they appreciated about this movie, they said that the portrayal is very accurate, you know, there's no, they had a very nice family dynamic. And these people were saying that they're very close with their parents, this guy who was a Coda, who I watched, he said, his parents like cried when they're watching the movie, because they loved how the family was portrayed. So that was something that I definitely really appreciated. The comedy definitely did it for me, there was a couple things that I really liked. There was a, there's a scene where the um, at the very beginning, when they're kind of doing the establishing stuff like, you know, showing where we are, who we're talking about, you know what the girl was like, what the school is like, the dad is coming in, in his pickup truck,  he's bumping 2 Chainz. And it's so funny, because it's loud.

AP  41:45  
Her dad loves gangster rap

Jay  41:47  
 And he's like, this white looking dudes like his white country look and do and he's listening to rap music. And it's so funny. That was that was, you know, I really liked the jokes in the comedy in this movie. Um, I also liked that the high school wasn't, I don't really know how to put this. But when you see these kind of high school dramas, you know, like euphoria, or Riverdale, even High School Musical, the characters, the actors all look very, like modelesque, they look like they should be on Teen Vogue or like doing some Aeropostale jean shoot or something like that. These all look like regular normal kids. And I'm like, that's  best way I can describe it. They just look like normal kids. I like that. They're not all 30 years old. They look they're about you know, 18 ish. 18 to 20, I don't think you can hire miners to do that.

AP  42:32  
 The casting

Jay  42:34  
 Yea the casting was very good. The casting was excellent. Yes. Um, I guess speaking of the cast. This was, this movie is actually a remake of a French film called La Famille Belier. I'm sorry, to my French viewers, if I pronounced it wrong. But they they basically, that original film had no deaf actors in it. So all the actors were hearing the last the whole crew was hearing. Yeah, they really fumbled the bag on that one. And this was recently made, it was made in like 2014, wasn't made that long ago.

AP  43:06  
 That's crazy.

Jay  43:07  
 So one of the so one of the producers of that movie came to the director, her name is Sian Heder. I hope I'm pronouncing her name right. Sian Heder. And they were like, I want to redo this for American slash English speaking audiences and we're going to do it right. So they hired a bunch of ASL interpreters, translators, Deaf casting crew, everything and the deaf cast really,

AP  43:30  
 the whole nine yards

Jay  43:30  
 released, the whole nine yards. The Deaf cast really did it for me, I think they were some of the best actors in this movie. And I was reading the interview that they did with the director and she was saying how she learned that, ASL is a very, it's not just your hands, like your whole body and your facial expressions and even like your mouth is, is different shapes when you're when you're signing. And it's really, it makes for really compelling performance. And even the comedy it makes it more physical, it makes it even funnier, because you like have to look at what they're doing. And they were saying that, you know, ASL is a very intimate language because you have to be looking at the person to see what they're doing and they're very expressive, so that really makes their performances very powerful and unique. And you really like feel their emotions because like,

AP  44:18  
I was gonna say, like, the scene where her parents thought that they're having sex and the dad was like, You need to use a condom, and did the whole army soldier with his whole arm. Oh, my gosh.

Jay  44:30  
That was, that was another thing. That was a really funny scene. Oh, it was so good. I love the parents. The parents were so good. Um, there were definitely some weak points in this movie, um, from a film perspective.

AP  44:47  
Mm Okay,

Jay  44:47  
 there was a best friend character. I felt like they didn't really need to include her. She really didn't do much in the movie. She was just kind of there to hook up with the brother and then that was kind of it.

AP  44:57  
That was weird, was she's supposed to be 18 because I was like, this is this is weird. I was like

Jay  45:02  
I'm pretty sure she was, I think it was implied.

AP  45:05  
Okay, good, because I was like, this is kind of weird. She's supposed to be like 16 like

Jay  45:09  
But that's kind of the point is that they don't really, they don't really do anything with her. So you don't really know anything about her. So I felt like they could have left her out. And I really, I wish, I wish to God that they had focused more on the older brother, the older brother was such a comparing, compelling character. That actor's name is Daniel, Daniel Durant, he is a fantastic actor, he's actually pretty well known. He's been in a couple of Netflix shows. He's really good. I really like him. There was a scene with the two of them. The conflict between the two siblings is that, you know, obviously, he's deaf. And she's hearing so a lot more responsibilities placed on her because it's a little easier, for you know, the family to communicate with the hearing, because she can hear and its, you know, reading lips isn't, they say in the film, it's like, not as efficient or whatever. I mean, he's, he has, he makes a really good point that, um, you know, there was a Deaf reviewer her name is Rikki Poynter, she, like really appreciated that this is in the movies, that deaf people aren't babies, you know, they're not children, they can, they've been communicating with the hearing their whole lives, they know how to do it, they are no different from us, aside from the fact that they can't hear, that's, that's literally the only difference. Um, and they've grown up in a hearing world, it's. So they know how to, you know, fit in with the hearing world, so to speak. 

AP  46:29  
Yeah.

Jay  46:30  
 And he becomes frustrated because he has no responsibility. And he gets treated like a baby by his own family, just because he can't hear even though it's his idea to come up with the fishing business. You know, he's the one who's like doing a lot of the work and he just becomes really frustrated. I can kind of, you know, I'm an older brother, so I can kind of understand why he's frustrated having no responsibility, even though he's perfectly capable of doing things by himself.

AP  46:54  
 Oh, yeah.

Jay  46:54  
 And they show that I just wish they had done more to explore that relationship between the two of them. They only had that one fight and a couple moments where he got upset, but I don't think that's quite enough.

AP  47:03  
 Yeah.

Jay  47:05  
 Another issue, this isn't coming directly from me, but you can almost like, I watched this movie a couple of times to get a good analysis, you know, to sift through with a fine grain, you know, what we do on the film grain baby. But you can tell that even as like a hearing person, you can tell that the actor I think her name is Emily Jones, who plays Ruby, Emelia Jones, sorry, that she is not like a real Coda and that she's not really fluent. I mean, she does a great job. Don't get me wrong, she does a great job. Her performance is great. But you can tell that her signing is not on the same level as the the other deaf characters in the movie. And, you know, I watched again, Rikki Poynter the deaf reviewe, she said the same thing. She's like, I can tell that it's off. I imagine it's like if you speak Spanish and you hear someone who speaks who's was speaking like, year six Spanish. It doesn't quite sound right. 

AP  47:56  
Yeah. Like, it's there but, its there but it's not there

Jay  47:59  
Yeah. And then this other Coda, whose name was Allen Boatner, he kind of expressed a similar sentiment, he wished they had hired a real Coda because there are plenty of Coda actors in Hollywood. They could have found somebody.

AP  48:09  
Really?

Jay  48:10  
 Yeah, oh, yeah. Dude there's so many. There's so many there's, there's all types of actors in Hollywood, just there's very picky with who they put in their movies because of how marketable they are or whatever. Um, another thing that that was kind of funny, is kind of veering away from, from my thoughts and a little more, because I viewed this movie as more than just like a movie. This is very, this is meant to be like a representation film. is kind of what this was supposed to kind of like open a doorway, and expose millions of people to something that isn't. well, is talked about, but doesn't, hasn't really had the public platform that it should have. It's getting better like,

AP  48:47  
the main it's not like not like the mainstream mainstream. 

Jay  48:51  
Yeah.Um, they said that. They like that they don't shy away from talking about sex in this movie. 

AP  49:00  
Oh, yeah. 100%. Oh, my gosh,

Jay  49:04  
 Um Rikki Poynter was saying that it's, it's very, it's like, sex is already pretty taboo in movies and whatever. But it's like an ultra taboo when it's like, you know, differently abled disabled people there, you know, it's like, ooh, we're not supposed to talk about that. But there's like, they're like, they're like, Nope, they do it. Here it is. There's like, not a real sex scene. But it's like a Yeah, it's right there. You, you, it's right there. Yeah. I mean, it's PG 13 there, but it's like it's there. Yeah. Um, but yeah, overall, I really, I really did enjoy the writing of this movie. Like, that's like my big takeaway. And cinematography. This isn't like meant to be. I did write in here. I really love indie films because indie films are almost always captured what's called in camera. So in camera means what you see, or there exists and it's all real and stuff like that. A lot of like big blockbuster movies, stuff that we see is like the only thing that's captured in camera are like the actors and everything else is green screen. Um, but I liked that they actually, like they went on a boat. And they went into the forest, they went to the lake and all that stuff is captured in camera, and it's just like, a quality that you can't quite mirror. And I just really appreciate that and it makes it feel all that more real and like relatable. Um, definitely I would, I would definitely say that the strongest points of the movie or the singing scenes, those are definitely the strongest points. Especially like uh, AP mentioned the duet. So there's a whole thing. That's the other thing, the love the love interest in this movie, it was really cute. But it wasn't really the focal point. That was another thing. I was like this, you'd rather focus on it more or left it out entirely. I don't I don't know. It was,

AP  50:51  
 interesting.

Jay  50:51  
 Yeah. But they so you know, in movies that have music in it. There's usually like, the singing and the practicing. And there's the big duet, like at the end of the movie or whatever. But when she finally does the big duet, it's just silent. It's meant to, it's meant to mirror what the parents are feeling. And the parents are sitting pretty far back in the audience. So they can't even like really read her lips because they're really far away. And it's like a really powerful moment. Because like, you can feel that, you know, they're trying to support their sister, they're daughter, but you know, they, they can't appreciate her talent. And then there's right after that they hit you in the stomach with the scene with her father, and they're sitting in the back of the pickup truck. And her father asked her to perform the song again. And he puts his hands on her throat and on her back so he can feel like her breath feel her vocal cords vibrate. And it almost, movies don't make me cry. But that one, that almost got me. 

AP  51:50  
I ain't goin lie, I got teary eyed. I was I wasn't bawling but I got. I was teary eyed. Hey, what happens when you finally you know, let yourself feel emotions again. You end up feeling emotions. And I was I was like, wow, this is beautiful. I was like, Man, this had me, it had me, I ain't goin lie.

Jay  52:06  
It was a really beautiful moment

AP  52:08  
 It was. It was good.

Jay  52:09  
But kind of bouncing off that while it was really beautiful and really well done. This is a trope that I do notice when there's a deaf character in the movie. Music is something that they tend to focus on. It's like, oh no they're, deaf they don't they can't listen to music. Oh, how terrible. But like that's not true. Deaf people listen to music all the time. There's so, oh well, they can enjoy music. They can't they can't listen to music, but they enjoy. They enjoy music. They like they like I said rap music music with heavy bass. There's like hundreds of Deaf musicians and deaf songwriters and whatever. It's just like something that feels like a bit of a tired trope is a bit of a tired trope, and I wish that they would kind of move past it. Because we had the Sound of Metal now this movie, there was another one that I can't think of where it's like a similar thing. It's like, oh, there's a Deaf musician, Whatever shall they do? And I just kind of wish they would explore something new, narratively speaking, but I do understand that. It's like easy, so people kind of gravitate towards it. But they tried to do a different. I just think that as a whole me personally. They should just try something else. Try something else. I don't know.

AP  53:17  
 Yeah. Listen to Jay. He knows what he's talking about. You hear all these technical terms. What this man is doing this man is about it. He's like that. He's like that.

Jay  53:26  
I'm like that, I read. I be reading and watching a lot of Masterclasses

AP  53:31  
he be watching. He be doing the do.

Jay  53:37  
But yeah, I uh Yeah, whoa man, what a movie, I would still watch this movie. Again and again, with my family. It's such a beautiful story. 

AP  53:45  
Yeah,

Jay  53:46  
 yeah, I have my problems with it. But honestly, I can ignore those. Because it's just such a beautiful, relatable story. You know, it's like a story of responsibility and making sacrifices and finding your path, which is something that I think that we can all kind of appreciate,

AP  54:01  
 oh yea,

Jay  54:01  
 being this age, it never really stops. I think that that feeling of finding yourself. I don't think it really stops, especially being young, you know, being 18 to 20 something, this weird period that we're in in our lives. Sometimes it's nice to see someone who is able to find themselves and then you can kind of glom on to it. So we hope that you enjoyed the first episode of The AP and Jay Show. You know, Alex, AP and I have been trynna try something different now. A new format trynna do something a little more organized. So if you have any suggestions for us, we're here to grow and change with y'all. So please got any suggestions, things that you want us to talk about. Please leave it in the comments on YouTube under The AP and Jay Show or give us a review on Apple podcast five stars only we will not accept anything less than five stars. And I will Now I will know if you're thinking about giving us less than five. I know a guy

AP  54:01  
 I see you

Jay  54:23  
 But leave us some suggestions in the comments or in the reviews on Apple podcasts. Also please check out our Patreon at The AP and Jay Show patreon.com/apandjayshow also Instagram, Twitter, TikTok. All under The AP and Jay Show. I'm sorry, all under at AP and J show by mistake. So yes, we really appreciate y'all support. And please tune in for the next episode we will be releasing on Wednesdays that is our official official release date

AP  55:27  
will be Wednesday, next Wednesday. Next Wednesday. Hit us up

Jay  55:33  
oh I don't know about next Wednesday, but we'll be releasing on Wednesday.

AP  55:38  
I didn't say which Wednesday I just said the next. The next is a plural.Not really. So 

Jay  55:49  
we're gonna be trying, we're gonna try to do every other Wednesday. That's going to be

AP  55:53  
 every other Wednesday

Jay  55:54  
 tentatively schedule. So we'll be skipping the following Wednesday after this episode comes out and then we'll try and post the next one. 

AP  56:01  
We'll be back in what May we'll be back in May.

Jay  56:05  
We'll be back in May right when y'all graduating some some y'all will be graduating

AP  56:08  
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Jay  56:12  
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AP  56:22  
or if you cruising around town with the windows down you know

Jay  56:26  
tops dropped, tops dropped. well yes, thank you for tuning into The AP and Jay Show and we will catch you on the flip side.

AP  56:37  
catch you on the flippidy flip